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“Landing it in 2029 for once it kind of moves to profitability — that's assuming everything goes according to plan”@ 6:48 · open at this moment on YouTube ↗
Thesis at the time
BearishThe speaker analyzes production projections (135K in 2025, 183K in 2026, ramping to 98K by 2030) against Lucid's ~$2.4-2.9B annual cash burn rate and concludes that ~60,000 units minimum are needed just to break even on operations. Given the ramp timeline, profitability is more likely 2029 than the 2027-2028 Peter has suggested. All technicals are bearish and institutions are not buying the dip. Only catalyst is Tesla earnings Wednesday and then Lucid's own Q3 earnings November 7.
Key arguments
- Realistic production estimates: 135K (2025), 183K (2026) — much lower than Lucid's 2021 projections of 251K for 2026
- At ~$88K revenue per vehicle, need ~60K units to offset ~$3B annual cash burn
- Lucid is likely to reach profitability around 2029 at these production levels, not 2027-2028
- All technicals bearish: below all moving averages, MACD bearish, stochastic bearish deviation
- Cash burn increasing from $2.2B (2022) to $2.4B (2023) — likely ~$2.9B in 2024
Counter-arguments acknowledged
- Peter stated he wants 1 million units from midsize SUV production — if achieved, timeline accelerates
- Tesla earnings Wednesday could be positive catalyst for Lucid
- Speaker himself bought a small position on Saturday as oversold level provides asymmetric risk
The call
- Date said
- Oct 21, 2024
- Deadline
- Dec 31, 2029
- Price at prediction
- $25.50
- Confidence
- low
- Specificity
- vague
How it resolved
- Status
- unverifiable
Why this resolved this way(resolution audit)
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