The call, on record
TSLA bullish call
Quoted text as recorded“I do want to keep my position you know during that period even if it is volatile and I mean that's always been my perspective right like I've held Tesla forever”@ 94:36 · open at this moment on YouTube ↗
Our interpretation
- Source published
- Jan 25, 2024
- Timeframe
- through the roughly 18-month gap until Next-Gen vehicle production starts in H2 2025
- Stored reference price
- $207.83
- Interpreted confidence
- medium
- Specificity
- vague
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Our summary of the thesis
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Tesla delivered record 2023 production, deliveries, and free cash flow, is rolling out FSD v12's end-to-end AI architecture to over 400,000 vehicles, and is advancing a revolutionary Next-Gen manufacturing line in Austin targeted to begin production in the second half of 2025. The host views the call as broadly positive and reaffirms his intention to keep holding Tesla stock through the current lull between growth waves rather than trying to time an exit and re-entry.
Key arguments
- Record 2023 production/deliveries of over 1.8 million vehicles and an annualized Q4 run rate near 2 million
- FSD v12 is a full end-to-end neural-net rewrite rolling out to 400,000+ North American vehicles in the coming weeks
- Energy storage deployments nearly doubled in 2023 and are expected to again outgrow the auto business in 2024
- Next-Gen vehicle production still targeted for second half of 2025 in Austin, with a genuinely novel manufacturing system
- Cybertruck demand described as 'production constrained, not demand constrained,' with 4680 cells currently ahead of the ramp
- Hardware 4/5 AI inference chip progress and large dormant fleet compute capacity seen as a long-term structural advantage
- Record free cash flow of $4.4 billion despite record capex and R&D spending
Counter-arguments acknowledged
- Automotive gross margin trends are hard to predict and depend on interest rates, tariffs, and incentives outside Tesla's control
- Cost reduction pace of recent quarters (helped by falling commodity costs) is not expected to continue at the same rate on the current platform
- Dojo is explicitly characterized as a high-risk, low-probability 'long shot' bet
- Optimus volume production and real-world utility remain unproven and hard to forecast
- New deferred-tax accounting will raise Tesla's effective book tax rate toward S&P 500 norms, pressuring reported EPS
- Host notes the stock sold off post-call despite few outright negative surprises, largely due to lack of fresh guidance and realization of the growth-wave gap
Hedges and caveats (from the video)
- Automotive gross margin ex-credits depends heavily on interest rates and factors outside Tesla's control
- Tesla says it is 'between two major growth waves' with slower growth expected until the Next-Gen vehicle ramps
- Dojo described by Elon as a 'long shot,' high-risk/high-payoff program, not a sure thing
- Optimus production timeline and utility are still uncertain and hard to predict precisely
- Cost-reduction pace from recent years is not expected to continue at the same rate on the current vehicle platform
- Stock traded down meaningfully after the earnings call despite host's generally positive take on content
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- Source published
- Jan 25, 2024, 12:21 AM UTC
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- Nov 1, 2026, 2:00 PM UTC
- Record last updated
- Nov 1, 2026, 2:00 PM UTC
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- Stored reference price
- $207.83
- Jan 24, 2024, 11:59 PM UTC · yahoo_daily
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Why we interpreted the confidence this way
Host states a firm, long-standing personal commitment to hold his Tesla position through the anticipated volatile growth-wave gap, without a price target or hard deadline, but with no hedging language diminishing the stated intent.