The call, on record
TSLA bearish call
Quoted text as recorded“bankruptcy filing out on the next year or something like that you know very very very high... 80%”@ 11:02 · open at this moment on YouTube ↗
Our interpretation
- Source published
- Sep 28, 2018
- Timeframe
- in the next year
- Extracted deadline
- Sep 28, 2019
- Interpreted confidence
- high
- Specificity
- specific
Why this call is unscored
- Status
- Not scored
- Notes
- There is no numerical target that can be objectively scored.
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Our summary of the thesis
Strongly BearishStructured interpretation of the video, not a verbatim quotation. Check the source for conditions, emphasis and context.
The SEC just filed fraud charges against Musk over the $420 take-private tweet, no investment bank will raise capital for Tesla given billions in civil-lawsuit liability, Model 3 is a lemon with reliability 4x worse than the next-worst car, and the whole company is dependent on free money in a rising-rate environment. Death-spiral puts at $150 and $100, June 2020 $200 puts, and short common make up the position. Odds of bankruptcy filing in the next year: 80%+.
Key arguments
- SEC fraud action against Musk + billions in civil lawsuits means no investment bank will raise capital for Tesla
- Board is liable under the $420-tweet lawsuits and may not have adequate D&O insurance
- Model 3 is a lemon — reliability 4x worse than the next-worst car, service centers already overwhelmed
- Whole nutty market is ending as rates climb; Tesla is 'completely dependent on free money in order to even exist'
- Plan A is fast bankruptcy from running out of money, Plan B is a busted growth story visible by early 2020 when competitor EVs hit showrooms
- Comparable: Valiant fell >90% after its initial 50% break — the best time to short valiant was AFTER the Philidor news, by analogy the best time to short Tesla may be right now
- Strategic buyout, if any, unlikely above $30/share — $10 extremely unlikely even in a buyout scenario
Counter-arguments acknowledged
- Very high short interest puts a floor under the stock (shorts don't all wait for zero to cover)
- Strategic investor could theoretically inject ~$5B at $15-20/share and spike the stock back to $200
About this record
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- Source published
- Sep 28, 2018, 12:22 AM UTC
- First recorded by TubeRank
- Apr 20, 2026, 10:00 AM UTC
- Record last updated
- Oct 6, 2026, 6:32 AM UTC
- Moderator review recorded
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- Outcome methodology version
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- Outcome reason code
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- Sep 28, 2019
- Recorded outcome date
- Oct 6, 2026
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Stored explanation
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Why we interpreted the confidence this way
Directly given as 80% probability of a bankruptcy filing within a year; consistent with his broader 'plan A is fast bankruptcy' framing.