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Mark SpiegelMark Spiegel
“I also have no doubt that Tesla Gap earnings this year 2023 will be at least 30 percent lower than 2022's earnings”@ 9:52 · open at this moment on YouTube ↗

Thesis at the time

Strongly Bearish

Tesla is transitioning from a growth stock to just another car company facing massive margin compression from price cuts and increasing competition. The company will likely see 2023 earnings decline 30%+ from 2022 levels due to 12-15% average price cuts while production only increases 3-5%, eliminating any operating leverage benefits.

Key arguments

  • Price cuts of 12-15% on average will directly impact gross margins from ~25% to potentially 13% or lower
  • Production guidance of 1.8M units represents only 3-5% growth over Q4 annualized rate, providing no meaningful economies of scale
  • Competition from Korean EVs (Kia EV6, Hyundai Ioniq 5), Ford Mach-E, and BMW i4 is intensifying with better build quality
  • China factory profits at risk due to market saturation and local competition from NIO, XPeng, BYD
  • FSD is a liability that may face regulatory recall, potentially costing billions in refunds
  • Used Tesla prices down 20% while overall used car market only down 4-5%

Counter-arguments acknowledged

  • IRA tax credits could provide some margin support
  • Demand surge from price cuts shows price elasticity exists
  • New factories in Austin and Berlin could eventually provide scale benefits

Hedges and caveats (from the video)

  • Mark Spiegel maintains long-standing negative views on the market
  • Discussion acknowledges this could be a temporary dislocation or disconnect
  • Historical comparison to 2001 NASDAQ rally followed by continued decline used as cautionary example
  • Hosts note they invited Tesla bulls but they couldn't attend, indicating incomplete perspective

The call

Date said
Jan 28, 2023
Timeframe
this year 2023
Deadline
Dec 31, 2023
Price at prediction
$177.90
Confidence
high
Specificity
specific

How it resolved

Status
unverifiable
Why this resolved this way(resolution audit)
Reference price
$177.90 (anchored at quote date)
Target used
—
Deadline source
Explicit (extracted from quote)
Effective: Dec 31, 2023
Age at resolution
43.8 months(from publish date)

Full rules: docs/resolution-spec.md.

Confidence Reasoning

Strong certainty language and detailed analysis of price cuts vs production increases

Source

Tesla Meltup With Motorhead and Mark Spiegel
Said on Jan 28, 2023@ 9:52Open on YouTube ↗
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