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Mark SpiegelMark Spiegel
there are three broad reasons why the equity in Tesla is worth zero@ 0:36 · open at this moment on YouTube ↗

Thesis at the time

Strongly Bearish

Tesla equity is worth zero. Q1 2018 financials are catastrophic (GAAP loss of $760M, over $25K lost per car), the competitive moat is collapsing as 14+ luxury EVs from Jaguar, Audi, Porsche, Mercedes, BMW, VW arrive in 2018-2020, the Panasonic Gigafactory is effectively a capital lease (and solid-state batteries will obsolete lithium-ion by the mid-2020s), Model 3 cannot be profitably built at the promised $35K base price, and Elon Musk has a long public track record of misleading statements.

Key arguments

  • Q1 2018 GAAP loss excluding ZEV credits was $760M — over $25,000 lost per car sold
  • Negative net working capital of ~$2.3B and Q1 free cash flow of negative $1B
  • 14+ luxury EVs from Jaguar, Audi, Porsche, Mercedes, BMW, Volkswagen arriving 2018-2020 at comparable or lower prices, many with interiors well beyond Tesla
  • Tesla's $7,500 US tax credit expires late 2018 while competitors' credits are just beginning — pricing pressure will be intense
  • Panasonic's so-called Gigafactory investment is a capital lease of equipment back to Tesla; Panasonic will happily sell the same cells to competitors
  • Solid-state batteries by the mid-2020s will fully obsolete lithium-ion and Tesla's Gigafactory
  • Tesla ranked dead last in autonomous driving by Navigant; three autopilot program leads have departed in ~18 months
  • A base Model 3 costs mid-$40Ks to build — Tesla cannot sell profitably at the $35K price it promised; Bernstein says only ~30% of owner reservations converted
  • Multiple lawsuits, SEC disclosure issues, and a long history of missed Musk profitability promises compound the 'can't be trusted' thesis

The call

Date said
May 15, 2018
Price at prediction
$18.95
Confidence
high
Specificity
vague

How it resolved

Status
unverifiable
Why this resolved this way(resolution audit)
Reference price
$18.95 (anchored at quote date)
Target used
Deadline source
None — neither explicit nor horizon-derived
Age at resolution
100.3 months(from publish date)

Full rules: docs/resolution-spec.md.

Confidence Reasoning

Forceful, repeated thesis from his 2016 'Tesla is a zero' presentation; grounded in structural arguments (financials + moat + trust); delivered at a short-selling conference which implies personal stake.